Sunday, April 19, 2009

Congress campaign - a retort


Re: FW: Haven't BANKER's racked enough HAVOC already?‏
From:
Puneet S. Wadhwa (puneet.parklane@gmail.com)
Sent:
20 April 2009 11:53AM
To:
Shashi Kapoor (smk.co@hotmail.com)
thanks venu,
a very correct retort to a obviously lucid mind
FW: Haven't BANKER's racked enough HAVOC already?‏
From: Shashi Kapoor (smk.co@hotmail.com)

Sent: 20 April 2009 10:53AM
To: Wadtru synthetics (puneet@options-world.com)

Dear Mr. Puneet Wadhva,

I am Venu working at S.M.Kapoor & Co. The last time you were here we mentioned Meera Sanyal in our conversation. This morning I received an e-mail, obviously from the Congress camp, denigrating Meera Sanyal and her profession. I thought a retort was called for. Forwarding you the same by way of conversation.

Regards
Venugopal


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From: smk.co@hotmail.com
To: pranaylambha@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Haven't BANKER's racked enough HAVOC already?
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:38:39 +0530
Dear Pranay Lambha,

Whoever you are, it is clear that you are supporting Congress. While it is well within your purview to say that your preferred candidate is more eligible than Meera Sanyal, you cannot deny her right to participate in the electoral process by being a candidate. Moreover, you have no right to denigrate the entire profession of bankers to spite Meera Sanyal. What qualification does the Congress candidate have except that he is the son of a famous politician? Let all candidates present their case and let the voters decide. Meanwhile, if you are a gentleman, I expect you to apologize for having denigrated bankers. They are also a part of our society and they play an important role. The failure of some bankers cannot be a general comment on all bankers.

Regards
K.Venugopal
Mumbai


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From: pranaylambha@yahoo.com
To: smk.co@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:44:22 -0400
Subject: Haven't BANKER's racked enough HAVOC already?

Dear Friends,

It comes as great surprise to see a banker running for public office in Mumbai South for the MP seat at the Lok Sabha elections scheduled to take place on April 30th, 2009. Meera Sanyal, current head of ABN Amro India, is running as an independent candidate on a platform in which she boasts her credentials and experience as banker to deliver improved infrastructure and public services to the city of Mumbai. In addition to this ludicrous claim that a banker´s experience is tantamount to efficiency in public service, she is also making the claim that she is better suited than all the other candidates in the South Mumbai Lok Sabha elections to tackle the impacts of the global financial crisis in the Indian economy.

It is notoriously known that it was the bankers' greed and irresponsibility that led to the insolvency of the global financial system, with total credit losses estimated to be around USD3 to USD4 Trillion. If today she can stand on a podium and pick a microphone and not be booed or thrown a shoe at her it is because the UPA government under the leadership Mr Manmoham Singh has implemented sound economic policies and and previous Congress government's strict banking regulation. India`s banks are healthy and not impacted by the global financial crisis as they are well regulated and the conservative policies of the RBI (of which Dr Singh was the former head) have shielded India from being an integral part of this global financial mess. The economic performance of the Congress Party should be praised because even in this recessionary global scenario, India will experience the second highest growth rate in the world in 2009, and the Indian economy has grown well above historical average over the last 5 years.

The fact that she has done some corporate lending, M&A deals, project finance and micro finance does not credit Mrs Sanyal the knowledge she claims to have about the economic, social and political needs of India. Bankers are great deal makers and are good salespeople especially when blowing their own trumpet, but they have no idea of how public life works. As matter of fact, it is very arrogant on her side to claim that she knows what India and Mumbai need to do to face the global financial crisis when all over the world it is the politicians and governments that are bailing out financial institutions. As a matter of fact, RBS is the parent company to ABN Amro India and RBS posted 24.1 billion pounds in losses for 2008, the biggest ever loss by any company in the UK resulting in a state sponsored bail-out program, RBS is 70% state-owned and has already announced a plan to reduce its presence in 34 out of the 56 countries that it operates. It is not clear if India is one these markets that will suffer cutbacks but from the stories making its rounds I am certain India will not be excluded. What I am also hearing from the grapevine is that Mr. Madan Menon is now heading RBS India and that Meera is on a permanent leave of absence and has therefore as an afterthought decided to embrace public life.

She said that she has 25 years of experience in banking and that she will serve the next 25 years of her to her country and city, the timing for her "call of duty" to be a public servant is very interesting since the parent company of ABN Amro India is insolvent and the overall bleak prospects for the financial services industry will hinder her ability to generate the high level of compensation. Banks that received government aid are not allowed to pay high bonuses to their executives before the government gets repaid (e.g AIG in the US).

In short, I want to leave all of you with a simple message: not everything that shines is gold. Don't be fooled by fancy words, statistics, masterplans and websites. The political process in India needs a lot of changes and improvements but putting a banker in power is not one of them.

Best Regards,

Saturday, September 29, 2007

Terry Grant

Your Note‏
From: Terry Grant (tgrant@alaya.org)
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:09:32 AM
To: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Thank you Venu. I appreciate hearing from you, and knowing that you found the message helpful. Love from Alaya. - Terry -----


Original Message ----- From: "Venugopal Kaikulath" To: Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:32 AMSubject: RE: It Is Worth Everything > Respected Terry Grantji,>> This is the first message I've received since 'signing up'. I think I've > understood it. It made good reading and brought about a silence just > meditating on the words said.>> Love,> Venu

Mukesh Eswaran


RE: My Chapter 1 on your web site‏
From: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 1:49:16 PM
To:
mukesh_eswaran@hotmail.com
Dear Mr. Mukesh Eswaran,
The moment I got your e-mail I deleted what I had copied and pasted of your novel 'The Sublime Homecoming' on my blog. I saw a review of your novel on, I think, NDTV site and I copied it and pasted on my blog 'Sounds of Silence', where I paste all texts that I have liked and would want to do an in-depth reading later on. No harm was meant. I am honoured, anyway, to have got an e-mail from a distinguished writer like you. Needless to say, I shall keep track of your writings now as from a person whom I 'know', even if it was in the background of a suit you almost slapped on me! Incidentally, my view on 'Intellectual Property Rights' is that it is drawn up for creative people to exploit their creation whereas all knowledge ought to be broadcast and available freely. Only then would there be, for example, writers who write for the love of writing and not with a view to make money out of their writing, which attitude is the cause of our culture having become so materialistic. On the other hand, I may be naive because it appears that in today’s world it would seem that unless you have money you cannot continue to be creative. Here again, it is a lack of character even in the best of us that has made such a situation come to a pass. Just some thoughts. Thanks for inspiring these, Mukeshji.
Regards
K.Venugopal
Mumbai
>From: "Mukesh Eswaran" ">mukesh_eswaran@hotmail.com>
To: venu1005@hotmail.com>
Subject: My Chapter 1 on your web site>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:40:04 -0800>>
Dear Mr. Venu:> >I was surprised to find the first chapter of my novel, The Sublime >Homecoming, on your web site. I did not authorize this and it is a >violation of my intellectual property. Please remove it and all reference >to my novel from your web site.
Thank you.> >
Mukesh Eswaran

Bogus e-mail


RE: ACT AS THE NEXT OF KIN‏
From: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:08:31 PM
To:
musa2000@gawab.com
Shehu Musa,
Why don't you go and screw yourself instead of sending bogus e-mails like this?
From: "shehu musa" >Reply-To: musa2000@gawab.com>Subject: ACT AS THE NEXT OF KIN Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:28:34 +0000>>FROM MR SHEHU MUSA..>>Attention please!>>I got your contact over the internet as a trustworthy and reliable >person.please pay attention and understand my reason of contacting you >today through this email. My name is MR.SHEHU MUSA bill and exchange >manager,foreign remittance dept B.O.A Bank Of Africa here in Burkina faso .>>I am the account officier to a foreign customer,Late Mr. Morris Thompson >,an American who unfortunately lost his life in the plane crash of Alaska >Airlines Flight 261, which crashed on January 31 2000. You may read more >about the crash on visiting this C.N.N News>internet website:>http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/02/01/alaska.airlines.list/>>I desprately need your assistance to secure and move huge sums of money >left behind by our late customer which amount US$15.5million dollars, I >will pay you>30% of the total sum for your coperation in this matter.I will give you >more details,on your positive response, also include in your reply and>acknowledgement of this mail.>>Yours faithfully,>MR SHEHU MUSA.

Muneer

RE: Blogging on NDTV‏
From: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:00:54 PM
To: venu1005@hotmail.com
Dear Muneer,


When I was in Muscat I met a person named John, a Malayalee. We became fast friends and in conversations over a period of time, he gave me deep insights into what spirituality (freedom) is all about. His entire point is: THERE IS NOTHING TO DO. I have in my writings not yet come to expound this view as it is a somewhat rarefied view and requires delicate handling. I was with the RSS since my young days but am now, as I said, something of a recluse. I did not plan to be away from Kerala for this long, but having lived in the Gulf one is used to keeping away from home and this simply stretched to ten long years. I mean to go before long, anyways. I see you have travelled. Travel they say, broadens the mind. No wonder you are more liberal in your presentation of Islam. Because of my nature I cannot be anti anybody, least of all Muslims, amongst whom I was born (I was born and brought up in Malaysia) and worked with from 1975 to 1997 (with a 10 year break in between when I was with the RSS). I am from Nellaya, near Cherpalcherry. However, I think Islam as an ideology (not as a religion) is dangerous. My contention of course requires explanation. Ideology I would define as political idealism. Islam has a political goal (unlike Hinduism or other religions, including Christianity, in spite of the Church influence). Islam minus its political goal is Sufism. I have nothing against such an Islam - in fact I sometimes consider myself something of a Sufi) but Islam as is identified today with its Shariat constitutiion is at the crossroads and in confrontation with liberalism. So I write with this view in mind and I conceed that my writings may seem to be an attack on the faith of Muslims. Actually it is only against dogmatic Islam. Do keep blogging. It would help us, at least, to collect our thoughts. I stay with my wife and two children. My son is in the final year B.Sc. and daughter in the first year of her 5 year LLB course. Since my rented room is in Navi Mumbai and I find the travel to and fro (I work in Fort in Mumbai) tedious, I stay over on most days in the office (CA firm) where I work as a Stenographer. This gives me access to the computer at nights and therefore I am able to blog.
Regards
Venu >

From: "NRI" ">nribahrain@gmail.com>
To: "'Venugopal Kaikulath'" ">venu1005@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Blogging on NDTV>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:50:51 +0300>>>

Dear Venuetta>>Indeed we have been having a lively debate and I must say that we-Keralites>have a much broader view of reliigion and peacefully co-exist in Kerala. I>have been in Bahrain for over 15 years annd before that I was in Tokyo for>10 years.>>I am in business with a Shaikh and may retutn to India soon. Business is >not>too good in Bahrain and every year hope that it will improve BUT no Luck !>>I am working on my father's Memorial Trust in Kerala and plan to retire>there and continue with some social work on the banks of the Chaliyar !>>I have a son and daughter and my wife is with her now. Please write to me>about yourself and what held you back in Mumbai for 10 years without going>to Kerala .>>Wishing you all the best>
Best regards>
Muneerudeen>>-----

Original Message----->
From: Venugopal Kaikulath [mailto:venu1005@hotmail.com]>
Sent: 13 January 2007 20:44>
To: nribahrain@gmail.com>
Subject: Blogging on NDTV>>

Dear Muneer,>>Your blogs on NDTV are keeping me busy replying them. Naturally, I don't>see Islam as you see it nor would you see Hinduism as I see it. That's not >a>problem - there's enough space in the world for each of us. I was in Muscat>for a long time, first going there in 1975, in those early days when you>would bump into the Sultan quite so often. I was with the RSS in Kerala for>sometime. Now I am something of a recluse staying in Mumbai, not having>been to Kerala for over 10 years. Please tell me about yourself. It's>probably best we exchange personal matters over e-mail, as on the blog it>might be unfair to others.>>Looking forward to hearing from you. Meanwhile, keep blogging.>>
Regards>
K. Venugopal

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FW: vote for Kalamji‏
From: NRI (nribahrain@gmail.com)
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:34:40 PM
To: 'Venugopal Kaikulath' (venu1005@hotmail.com)

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Original Message-----From: NRI [mailto:nribahrain@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 January 2007 14:56
To: 'Venugopal Kaikulath
'Subject: RE: vote for Kalamji
The BJP did good- BUT then they Polished their Image too much - And seeParamod mahajan's fate and his Corruption stories ! ALL politicians are outto make suckers of the citizens and make money- Nothing else. It is onlyNGO's and a few IAS Officers , Judges , Scientists, Social workers etc whowant to do something good BUT CANNOT ! Eg: TN Seshan , CVC Vittal, JoginderSingh , Our own Shahsi Tharoor ! Same with USA- Gore Lost to BUSH because of corruption by Jeb Bush and theSupreme Court Judge - despite the popular votes and Chad s ! And see theresult in Iraq- Afghanistan-Palestine- ALL OVER THE WORLD> Of course weagree to disagree since you support BUSH !But read what the American Soldier wrote and what 70% of the Americans nowsay !Anyway take careMuneer
-----Original Message-----
From: Venugopal Kaikulath [mailto:venu1005@hotmail.com]
Sent: 14 January 2007 14:01
Subject: RE: vote for Kalamji
Dear Muneer,
Your campaign to renominate Dr. Abdul Kalam as President is making me ask,shouldn't Dr. Kalam be projected as a role model Muslim the world overinstead of say, Nasrullah of Hezbollah or Osama bin Laden or our own NaseerMadani or the NDF leaders? In fact, Dr. Kalam should have been nominated torun for UN Presidentship and he would have won. But our UPA Government doesnot have this sort of imagination. If Vajpayee was the Prime Minister, itwould have happened. Remember it was he who made Dr. Kalam the President. Incidentally, I was among the first to suggest Dr. Kalam for President whenI wrote so in the Asian Age long before his name for the post appeared inthe media. Good going Muneer, continue gallantly.
Regards
Venu
To: ,"'Venugopal Kaikulath'" >">venu1005@hotmail.com>
Subject: vote for Kalamji>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:37:27 +0300>>>> _____>>>>>
WE THE PEOPLE OF INDIA>PRAY>REQUEST>HOPE>LIVE>&>VOTE FOR>> SHRI A.P.J.ABDUL KALAM>TO CONTINUE AS>PRESIDENT OF INDIA>FOR LIFE>

Calming the mind‏


From: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:09:37 PM
To: venu1005@hotmail.com
Dear Pramodji,
My blog Dancing Fingers contains articles I have cut and pasted from NDTV Blog, which are other peoples articles. At the end of each article, I have commented in red, which would constitute my writing. I wished to tell you this otherwise you would have thought that I write anti-Hindu articles! The blog Shooting Stars contain my writings in NDTV with others' comments. The blog Continuum contains my writings in a sort of diary fashion. There is a technique, which I call 'continuum', which has helped me to calm my mind. It's all in the mind, as they say. Only if you calm your mind can you start to realy live. I have based it on the simple technique of 'nama-japa'. If you, for example, say Rama, Rama, Rama .... without break for as long as you can, your mind would certainly be calmed. They say you can go into deeper consciousness because when you say Rama Rama Rama without break, what is happening is - sound-silence sound-silence sound-silence . . . in the beginning we are not aware of the silence but only of the sound Rama Rama Rama. Later on you become aware of the silence also. They say at one stage, you cease to hear the sound but become conscious only of the silence, though japa is still going on. That stage will give you deep calmness, they say. In my future e-mails to you, I shall discuss the technique of continuum. And also I shall tell you of the philosophy of "There is nothing to do".
Love,Venu
>From: Pramod Jonnalagadda ">jopramod@yahoo.com>
To: Venugopal Kaikulath >">venu1005@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Namaste Pramodji>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:10:49 -0800 (PST)>>Namaste,>>This year was too good.... I am part of the IT Milans here (Weekly milans >for the professionals), as part of Guruji Centenary celebrations we had a >special ITC only for the professionals, apart from the Upastiti dins and >Samajotsavas. I was looking at the blog "Dancing Fingers" >http://venu10.blogspot.com/. I haven't completely read the blog. Here too >we have started some initiatives to bring some intellectual activism. Will >keep you posted on the activities.>>Thanks for prabhakarji's number will call him up once he is back. Its been >a while since I have spoken to him.>>Shubam>
Pramod Jonnalagadda>+91-9845969951>>>-----
Original Message ---->
From: Venugopal Kaikulath ">venu1005@hotmail.com>
To: jopramod@yahoo.com>Sent: Monday, 26 February, 2007 11:03:37 AM>
Subject: Namaste Pramodji>>>
Dearest Pramodji,>>
Most happy to receive your e-mail. I am sure you were very active with>Guruji Centenary celebrations in Bangalore. Over here, I am now staying >over>in the office most of the days so that at night I can blog. I mostly blog>at NDTV Blog. I write under my own name, K.Venugopal and I have been>regularly blogging since August. There was a running debate on Islam and >one>blogger, by name Infidel, cornered the Muslims on many matters. You should>read his blogs. I, of course, supported him in my own way. By the way, >which>blog of mine did you read?>>Prabhakarji has gone to Delhi and will be returning only next month. When I>phoned his number to inform about your e-mail, Santhosh Pillai, a >Malayalee,>who is Vistarak of Belapur, answered the phone. The mobile no. is>9322072728.>>Now that we have established contact, we should keep in touch regularly.>>Looking forward to hearing from you,>>
Love,>
Venu>>>> >
From: Pramod Jonnalagadda > >To: venu1005@hotmail.com> >Subject: Namaste> >Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:23:34 -0800 (PST)> >> >Namaste Venuji,> >> >This is Pramod. I hope you remember me, myself and Prabhakar Rai (Navi> >Mumbai Jilla pracharak) had once met you at your Airoli residence. I was >at> >that time working for L&T Infotech staying at Koparkhairane. Now I am at >my> >home town bangalore working for IBM.> >> >Was searching the Net and came accross your blog. Happy to see your blog.> >Its got a lot of material.> >> >Pramod Jonnalagadda> >+91-9845969951> >> >

Worship 330 Million Gods‏


33 crores Hindu Gods‏
From: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:39:51 PM
To: ashokjai@sancharnet.in; ashok@wonder-cures.com; atsingha@vsnl.com
Dear Ashokji,

I have read your article wherein you question the Hindu worship of 33 crores Gods. It is obvious to anyone who understands the highest teachings of Hinduism (Advaita) that everything there is and there is not is of one essence, call it God or whatever. Since the experience that is readily available to us since birth is the multiplicity of things in the world and our being separate individuals, the spiritual teaching seeks to take us to our essence, which is the essence of all. So you could say that Hinduism is the movement from multiplicity to one, oneness, all-ness and nothingness. A scripture written long ago at a time when there were probably only 33 crores humans in the world, has exclaimed the 33 crores gods that we are who exist and is verily worshipful, for we are the essence. This is the purport of the '33 crores Gods' exclamation in a Hindu scripture.

Regards

K.Venugopal

From: Venugopal Kaikulath (venu1005@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:01:48 PM
To: haindavakeralam@yahoogroups.com
Hindus and 33 crores Gods.

There are many who mock at the concept of 33 crores gods worshipped by the Hindus. My take on this is that it is obvious to anyone who understands the highest teachings of Hinduism (Advaita) that everything there is and there is not is of one essence, call it God or whatever. Since the experience that is readily available to us since birth is the multiplicity of things in the world and our being separate individuals, the spiritual teaching seeks to take us to our essence, which is the essence of all. So you could say that Hinduism is the movement from multiplicity to one, oneness, all-ness and nothingness. A scripture written long ago at a time when there were probably only 33 crores humans in the world, has exclaimed the 33 crores gods that we are who exist and is verily worshipful, for we are the essence. This, I take it, is the purport of the '33 crores Gods' exclamation in a Hindu scripture.
Regards
K.Venugopal
To: haindavakeralam@yahoogroups.comFrom: devinder.thakur@btopenworld.comDate: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:00:08 +0100Subject: [haindavakeralam] Fw: Worship 330 Million Gods

----- Original Message -----
From: Devinder Thakur
To: swamijyoti ; Krishen Kak ; Ashok T. Jaisinghani ; Arvind Mallya ; Dr S Sharma ; VHP DELHI HQS ; Ramchander Homma ; Om Nath Garg ; Narsi L S Narasimhan ; Sandhya Jain
Cc: unitedhindufront@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Worship 330 Million Gods
HINDUISM PAINTED BLACK

Dear All,

I have revised my views about the question recently asked by Shree Ashok Jaisinghani about the worship of 33 crore gods. I think you will soon agree with me that Shree Ashok Jaisinghani is less of a sinner than he is sinned against. His question would simply appear to be benign.

I have just finished reading a review of a book "An Analysis of Hinduism Studies in America." and am about to obtain a copy as I think it will make both an interesting as well as an indignant reading. Interesting , because it exposes the fallacious interpretation by American scholars of Hinduism, its numerous facets and their manifestation in ways that are beyond the ken of some. Indignant, because these interpretations demonise, distort. and degrade Hinduism.

For several decades now the white, Judeo/Christian 'Scholars' of various schools of South Asian studies in US have been anthologising HINDUISM. However, in the last few years Indian scholars have taken them on and the result is this volume under review. Hinduism is 'interpreted' with a degree of hostility Bhagwat Gita is dismissed as a 'dishonest book promoting war.; Ganesha's trunk is a 'limphallus, his large belly and love of sweets are proof of Hindu male's enormous appetite for oral sex. Besides, Swami Ramakrishna Padmahamsa is called a paedophile who molested the young Swami Vivekananda. The bindi is interpreted as a drop of menstrual fluid.

Various incidents narrated in Hindu scriptures are explained in Freudian terms and so the fight between Shiva and Ganesha is an episode of Oedipal conflict. These scholars have not only received awards, but their books are also prescribed as readings in American colleges and universities. Their Hindu phobic views have also gained respectability in mainstream America.

In these days when India is resurging as a global power "Invading the sacred" sets out to expose the systematic undermining core icons and ideals of Indic culture and thought. The editors explain that these debasing images of India, its culture and civilisation are not just in the realm of academia nor the result of personal biases and prejudices of a few; they are also in the realm of institutionalised mechanisms. These images shape popular perception in America. For the vast Indian Diaspora's younger generation in America indeed in India too these interpretations are at vast divergence with all that they have known about their culture and civilisation and religion.

As S N Balagangadharan of University of Belgium, one of the contributors in this book says," Our experiences are being trivialised , denied, distorted and made inaccessible by someone else's experience of the world. You have the feeling of moral and ethical wrongness because such situation is neither justified nor justifiable.

One is made to think that apparently, there is only one way of experiencing the world, the Western way.Countering this insidious campaign against Hinduism by 'talking back' was one of the way of meeting challenge in view of the struggles of the Blacks,women,gays and so on. The present book is one such 'talk back'.

The question to ask here is this What is the Hindu Diaspora doing to correct this wholesale institutionalised maligning of our religion and culture. Rather than see everything through the prism of Hindu/Muslim feuds, perhaps we now ought to look at this rather serious problem right under your noses.and at our door steps.. Regards Devinder Thakur
----- Original Message -----
From: Devinder Thakur
To: swamijyoti ; Krishen Kak ; Ashok T. Jaisinghani ; Arvind Mallya ; Dr S Sharma ; VHP DELHI HQS ; Ramchander Homma ; Om Nath Garg ; Narsi L S Narasimhan ; Sandhya Jain
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Worship 330 Million Gods
Dear All,

This would appear to be a wild and irresponsible statement quoting some unidentified group of Hindu fundamentalists simply designed to provoke reaction.

I should dismiss this as a frivolous question verging on ridiculing the Great Hindu religion. Regards Devinder Thakur
----- Original Message -----
From: swamijyoti
To: Krishen Kak ; Ashok T. Jaisinghani ; Arvind Mallya ; Devinder Thakur ; Dr S Sharma ; VHP DELHI HQS ; Ramchander Homma ; Om Nath Garg ; Narsi L S Narasimhan ; Sandhya Jain
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Worship 330 Million Gods
ATJ is obviously a 'habitual bullshiter'. If he does not remove everyone immediately from his mailing list, I suggest, all should block his ID.
----- Original Message -----
From: Krishen Kak
To: Ashok T. Jaisinghani ; Arvind Mallya ; Devinder Thakur ; Dr S Sharma ; VHP DELHI HQS ; Ramchander Homma ; Om Nath Garg ; Narsi L S Narasimhan ; Sandhya Jain ; SwamiJyoti
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Worship 330 Million Gods
Another non-issue being made into an issue.
ATJ, please remove me from from your mailing list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashok T. Jaisinghani
To: Arvind Mallya ; Devinder Thakur ; Dr Krishen Kak ; Dr S Sharma ; VHP DELHI HQS ; Ramchander Homma ; Om Nath Garg ; Narsi L S Narasimhan ; Sandhya Jain ; SwamiJyoti
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:34 AM
Subject: Worship 330 Million Gods
How can Hindus Worship 330 Million Gods & Goddesses?

The Hindu fundamentalists insist that there are 33 crore or 330 million Hindu gods and goddesses, and the Hindus are supposed to worship all of them. Can the Hindus really worship so many gods and goddesses? Is it possible for the Hindus ever to worship all the 330 million gods and goddesses when the names and other details are not known even to the great Hindu gurus and scholars?

Are the names of all the 330 million gods and goddesses written anywhere in any Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads or other Hindu holy books? How can the Hindus ever worship all the 330 million gods and goddesses without their names and other details being known to anyone? It is just impossible.

Can any Hindu scholar prove that there are 330 million Hindu gods and goddesses by giving the names of all of them? I am ready to give Rs 3,30,000 (three lakh and thirty thousand ruppees) to anyone who can show me even one copy of the Veda, Purana, Upanishad, or any other old or new book or directory which gives the full list of all the 330 million Hindu gods and goddesses. I have never heard anyone claiming to know about any book which gives a list of even 10,00,000 names of Hindu gods and goddesses.

Do the Hindu gurus and scholars even know how many years it will take just to count 330 million one by one? So how can any Hindus worship 330 million gods and goddesses?

Sincerely,
Ashok T. Jaisinghani.
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I do not deny the existence of God. Only, I do not accept that God is something that is separate from us. It is what we are, in essence. If we posit a God separate from and outside us, it is only as a matter of convenience to grasp the idea of Godhood. But eventually we would have to realize that we have within us the power of the ultimate and we would have to awaken to the divinity that we are. Believing is not enough, we have to realize. The Semitic religions have done the greatest harm stunning man’s spiritual search into mere believe. Actually, except for the Advaitic teaching, all religions are at the level of idol worship. In the Hindu tradition alone the seeker is encouraged beyond idols. To both Christianity and Islam it is blasphemy go beyond idols. Which is particularly ironic in the case of Islam because it claims to be dead against idol worship.